Evaluating the developments in Turkey and the Middle East, KCK (Kurdistan Communities Union) Executive Council Co-President Cemil Bayık stated that the Turkish state bet on the wrong horse in Syria.

Bayık remarked that it will be the Kurds and all the peoples to triumph in this process in the event that they give a struggle based on the ideological and political line of Leader Apo and defend this line consistently in Turkey, Syria, Iran, Iraq, the Middle East and everywhere else.

KCK Executive Council Co-President Cemil Bayık answered ANF's questions on the developments in Turkey, Kurdistan and the Middle East. Third and last part of the detailed interview is as follows:

How will Turkey's failure in Syria impact its position in the region?

Turkey has been broken in Syria. Turkey bet on the wrong horse and lost. In its own way, it bet on sectarian and radical groups such as ISIS and al-Nusra which it thought would be effective in Syria and through which it planned to pursue its policy in the entire Middle East territory. However, this plan has collapsed. Failure of Turkey can clearly be seen; those who would speak against Assad and Syria on daily basis are now seeking reconciliation and developing relations with Russia that supports Syria.

Turkey establishing relationship with gangs such as ISIS, al-Nusra ended up the Turkish state becoming a country that no side in the Middle East can trust. Turkey can no more influence the Arab circles by opposing Israel with "One Minute" remarks, nor can it race to be the leader in the Middle East. No matter how hard Turkey engages in provocation and depicts their conflicts with Europe as the battle of crescent and cross, everyone knows that this is not the case. This is the Turkish nationalism's trouble with these countries. Turkey is having a problem with Europe because of Turkish nationalism's failure to make these countries partner to its Kurdish enmity and to receive the support it desires. Currently, Turkey has no party left other than KDP to collaborate with. Turkey's relations with Saudi Arabia and Qatar are not like they used to be, while its relations with Egypt are collapsed already, relations with Syria are quite self-evident and Turkey has no influence in Lebanon. Jordan has also seen the true character of Turkey. In this sense, Turkey is quite isolated now. The precious loneliness it had mentioned before has indeed become true. They supposedly meant to impress the peoples with that precious loneliness but they could impress neither peoples, nor countries and states because they pursued wrong policies.

Turkey will continue facing a deadlock in foreign policy as long as it pursues enmity towards the Kurds and policies based on anti-Kurdishness. It is no more possible for Turkey to make everyone partner to its Kurdish enmity, like the Arabs especially after the Kurds have gained rights in Syria to a certain extent. Should a resolution to the Kurdish question in Syria be achieved, the Kurdish-Arab convergence to follow could render Turkey even more isolated.

It is no more possible for Turkey to overcome the unreliability in Syria, nor to gain Iraq's confidence. In this sense, the Syria-Iraq line has been closed for Turkey. This is a consequence of Turkey's policies. If it still persists in sustaining its presence through sectarianism, those sectarian policies will further tie the Turkish state down. The perception on Turkey in the Middle East was not like this in the past. Sectarian policies came into play with the AKP government. This situation will leave Turkey troubled with Syria and Iraq. Kurds have no interests in sectarian policies anyway as they are against every sectarian approach. From this point of view, Turkey could gather the KDP to itself but Kurds in general are distant from sectarian policies. This is actually a gain for the Middle East. The Kurds' distance from sectarian policies is one of the most prominent stances of theirs. As Turkey cannot possibly gain appreciation from the Kurds or develop relations with the Kurds on the basis of sectarianism, the breakdown in Syria will narrow down the Turkish state. Turkey's way in the Middle East could only be cleared if it achieves democratization on the basis of Kurdish question's resolution. However, Turkey will never be able to recover its breakdown in Syria and the Middle East that is caused by its enmity towards the Kurds as long as there exists an authoritarian system in the country.

Lastly, do you have a message for our readers?

In Turkey, in Syria and in the Middle East, the only political solution relies on the Democratic Nation line put forward by Leader Apo. This line has a character distant from nationalism and in which every society can create democratic systems based on free living with their own identity and culture. Amid the current crisis and chaos in the Middle East, this ideological approach is the greatest power of the Kurds. In this sense, Kurds have triumphed already in ideological and political sense. History itself has proven that those bearing a true ideological and political approach triumph at times of crisis and chaos. At the moment, the anti-democratic powers are resisting against this line. They are resisting in Turkey and other places. This is actually a resistance put up by status quoist forces that do not move with the times ideologically and politically. The AKP-MHP government in Turkey is also within this resistance, as well as all status quoist powers in the region.

In this sense, even if there occur some difficulties and challenges, Kurds will definitely triumph. It will be the Kurds and all the peoples to triumph in the event that they give a struggle based on the ideological and political line of Leader Apo and defend this line consistently in Turkey, Syria, Iran, Iraq, the Middle East and everywhere else. In this course, it is out of the question for any of the peoples following this line to lose. In this regard, Kurds will liberate all of Turkey, Syria and the Middle East alongside themselves. They have attained this ideological and political power now.

The Third World War is ongoing and there is a transition period taking place. Old balances have been torn down and new balances are being built. Kurds are the only folk that will show the way out of this crisis and chaos in ideological and political sense. There can be no victory and Kurds would get crushed without a fight in this process. However, Kurds will triumph if they continue their resistance and struggle in this crisis and chaos environment. In this regard, we believe that our struggle based on Leader Apo's line will reveal further gains during 2017, and with the spirit of Newroz, we will definitely win.